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Lars Carlberg wrote:And let's not forget that the French ruled over much of the Rhineland, including the Mosel region, at the beginning of the 19th century. This was an important period, especially the Napoleonic Code. Under French rule, they also secularized the vineyards, as in Burgundy. Only after the Thirty Years' War, 1648, at the Peace of Westphalia, did Alsace and Lorraine become a part of France. Of course, Germany didn't exist as a nation state. France also had a long-running rivalry with the Habsburg.
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David M. Bueker wrote:TIm - based on your demerera sugar and spice comments, I wonder whether there is some botrytis that has evolved to that burnished note. It would also convey a greater sense of sweetness, or at least that's what botrytis often does to my palate. A 13.5% alcohol wine should be pretty darned dry. 2004 was not a blockbuster ripeness vintage.
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Salil wrote:February for German Riesling, March for Austrian wine?
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Clint Hall wrote:Bill, do you men Reisling IN or FROM the Rhenhessen/Pfalz? Or both?
Bill Hooper wrote:Clint Hall wrote:Bill, do you men Reisling IN or FROM the Rhenhessen/Pfalz? Or both?
Hi Clint,
I guess I mean both. Someone might call me out and say that there is still a lot of sweet wine made in these regions (together they make about half of the total quantity of wine in Germany), but those sweet wines don't come from top producers (the ones that are interesting to export markets) and often aren't even Riesling. Much more often it is the cheap jug wine that is sweet.
Cheers,
Bill
Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Bill, do you have a list of reliable weinguts from these two areas?
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Bill Hooper wrote:Clint Hall wrote:Bill, do you men Reisling IN or FROM the Rhenhessen/Pfalz? Or both?
Hi Clint,
I guess I mean both. Someone might call me out and say that there is still a lot of sweet wine made in these regions (together they make about half of the total quantity of wine in Germany), but those sweet wines don't come from top producers (the ones that are interesting to export markets) and often aren't even Riesling. Much more often it is the cheap jug wine that is sweet.
Cheers,
Bill
Lars Carlberg wrote:Bill Hooper wrote:Clint Hall wrote:Bill, do you men Reisling IN or FROM the Rhenhessen/Pfalz? Or both?
Hi Clint,
I guess I mean both. Someone might call me out and say that there is still a lot of sweet wine made in these regions (together they make about half of the total quantity of wine in Germany), but those sweet wines don't come from top producers (the ones that are interesting to export markets) and often aren't even Riesling. Much more often it is the cheap jug wine that is sweet.
Cheers,
Bill
The winemaker at Karl Schaefer, Jan Gross, said to me the other day that their sweet Rieslings (with really cool retro labels) have sold quite well in Germany last year. They have moderate RS too. Of course, the estate has always been a specialist for dry Pfalz Rieslings, but he says that they'll have more sweet wines from the 2012 vintage.
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Bill Hooper wrote:Lars Carlberg wrote:
The winemaker at Karl Schaefer, Jan Gross, said to me the other day that their sweet Rieslings (with really cool retro labels) have sold quite well in Germany last year. They have moderate RS too. Of course, the estate has always been a specialist for dry Pfalz Rieslings, but he says that they'll have more sweet wines from the 2012 vintage.
Hi Lars,
He told me the same at the VDP tasting last year where I got to taste one with RS (yes, cool label). It surprised me, but it wasn't bad. But like you say, the estate stands firmly behind its image as a producer of dry Riesling. Time will tell if that route (more sweet wines) will prove successful or not. One or two might work, but I don't see more than that having much of a market.
Cheers,
Bill
David Lole wrote:My first try of a W. Schaefer wine and what a revelation it was. If all of his portfolio was as good as this, I would buy on a regular basis.
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