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Redwinger
Wine guru
4038
Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Jim Grow wrote:I have recently been drinkling a lot of Cal. Cab. none of which I see posted here lately. Many are excellent (IMHO) and include (tonight) 2009 Calistoga Cellars but also Bugay, De Sante, Bennett Family, Rockledge, Vine Cliff, Sueno Profundo, Maple Lane, Topel, Provenance, Levendi, Anakota, Maroon, Baus, Atlas Peak, Kuleto, Coniglio, Roth, Snowden, Conn Valley, Mt. Veeder, Bernardus, Ahnfeldt, Farella, Hoopla, Summers, Cade, Faust and Chorus. I guess I am in the vast minority with interest in these fruit-forward Cabernets. I would love to see how these mature with 10+ years on them but I drink them too often to find out. Do any of you out there like any of these Cabernets and how do they age?
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
9550
Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
John S wrote:In Canada, the price of the Cali cabs available here have gone through the roof, starting about 10 years ago. As a result, I'm rarely a buyer, unless something gets discounted. There's too many wines from other regions that offer way better QPR. I do miss Napa cabs a bit, as I cut my teeth on them before they went all Bordeaux on us, but I refuse to support the greed and ego fueled price increases.
I remember going to Caymus in the early 1990s, and Mr Wagner was pouring at the tasting room in the days before appointments were required. He flatly stated to the group I was tasting with, "Bordeaux can charge $100 per bottle, so I'm going to raise my prices as well - if they can do it, i can do it". He was true to his word at least!
Brian K Miller
Passionate Arboisphile
9340
Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
Northern California
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
9550
Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
Brian Gilp wrote:Sure prices have gone up but no one needs to spend $100/btl. Short list below of things that I generally like and I don't think any of them come it at over $100 but some are close
Togni $135-165 Can.
Corrison $95-100
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
34412
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker wrote:Looking at the cellartracker data, I have purchased exactly 3 California Cabernets not called Ridge or Montelena over the last 5 years. I did buy an Arnot-Roberts, but have not tasted it yet, so not sure if I will go after more. Not sure when to open it either, as it's a 1.5L.
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
34412
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker wrote:The Arnot-Roberts is the 2010 Vare Vineyard Cabernet (Mt. Veeder).
Bill Spohn wrote:Brian Gilp wrote:Sure prices have gone up but no one needs to spend $100/btl. Short list below of things that I generally like and I don't think any of them come it at over $100 but some are close
Togni $135-165 Can.
Corrison $95-100
Others currently unavailable in BC/Canada.
Other faves - Montelena $160, Dominus $175 (Napanook is under $100), Caymus SS $135......etc.
Sam Platt
I am Sam, Sam I am
2330
Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:22 pm
Indiana, USA
Jon Peterson
The Court Winer
2981
Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:53 pm
The Blue Crab State
Mark Lipton wrote:I've a fair bit of CalCab in the cellar, but I've found that I prefer them with a lot of bottle age...
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
9550
Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
Jon Peterson wrote: I opened a 2005 Mt. Veeder Winery Cab for dinner Sunday night and it was absolutely wonderful. For me, having wines like this would not be possible without a wine cellar and it is one of the main reason to have a cellar.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
42706
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Jon Peterson
The Court Winer
2981
Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:53 pm
The Blue Crab State
Bill Spohn wrote:I wouldn't even think about drinking a good California Cabernet at that young age.
Bill Spohn wrote:Jon Peterson wrote: I opened a 2005 Mt. Veeder Winery Cab for dinner Sunday night and it was absolutely wonderful. For me, having wines like this would not be possible without a wine cellar and it is one of the main reason to have a cellar.
Not poking fun at you, Jon, but I actually laughed when I saw that!
Good example of how tastes vary. I wouldn't even think about drinking a good California Cabernet at that young age. I am just starting in on my early 90s cabs.
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