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Robin Garr wrote:Well, this is ugly ... what do you think about the ethics (and legality) of this winery-defense strategy, covered in The Daily News Fetch on Lewis Perdue's Drinks Business?
Winemaker kills thief with poisoned wine
8th November, 2013 by Rupert Millar
A Hungarian winemaker has been sent to prison for murder after he poisoned wine with antifreeze to stop a thief.
According to Agence France Presse, the producer from Vacszentlaszlo, 50km east of Budapest, had been plagued by a spate of thefts and was determined to teach the thief, or thieves, “a lesson”.
He therefore laced some bottles with antifreeze and left them where they were likely to be taken.
On 24 October, a 30-year old man – who has not so far been identified as an employee of the winery – stole several poisoned bottles and shared them with friends.
According to police in the Pest department, he was hospitalised a few days later showing signs of poisoning and was dead by 1 November – though the exact cause of his death has not been firmly established.
Click for the full story:
http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2013/1 ... oned-wine/
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Mark Lipton wrote:All your Tokaji Aszu are belong to us, Hoke. Pony up, horse-boy!
Mark "Egri Bikaver" Lipton
Hoke wrote:Mark Lipton wrote:All your Tokaji Aszu are belong to us, Hoke. Pony up, horse-boy!
Mark "Egri Bikaver" Lipton
Feeling your puttonyos today, huh, Bull Boy?
Tom NJ
That awful Tom fellow
1240
Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:06 pm
Northerm NJ, USA
Mark Lipton wrote:I have been feeling a little bit hod, now that you mention it.
Tom NJ wrote:Mark Lipton wrote:I have been feeling a little bit hod, now that you mention it.
How long did you let that comment furmint in your mind before posting it?
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
Howie Hart wrote:This reminds me of a guy I worked with in a factory about 35-40 years ago. He kept a large (gallon sized) jar of pickles, with his name written in the lid, in a shared refrigerator and noticed they were disappearing faster than he was eating them, so he urinated into the jar and when all the pickles were gone, he let everyone know what he did.
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
6389
Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
Yes. He was a tough guy, but was fired shortly afterwards for stealing. It was a sandpaper factory and he was allegedly supplying half the body shops in the area with sanding discs and finishing paper.Thomas wrote:Did he survive the response?
Howie Hart wrote:Yes. He was a tough guy, but was fired shortly afterwards for stealing. It was a sandpaper factory and he was allegedly supplying half the body shops in the area with sanding discs and finishing paper.Thomas wrote:Did he survive the response?
Howie Hart wrote:This reminds me of a guy I worked with in a factory about 35-40 years ago. He kept a large (gallon sized) jar of pickles, with his name written in the lid, in a shared refrigerator and noticed they were disappearing faster than he was eating them, so he urinated into the jar and when all the pickles were gone, he let everyone know what he did.
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
8058
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
9556
Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
Mark Lipton wrote:Yeesh. My favorite story in this regard concerned a lab worker in the lab I did my Ph D work in. This guy became really upset if other people used "his" cork rings (used to supply a stable base for roundbottom flasks). These were regarded by everyone else in lab as communal property, so they took some umbrage when he wrote his name in permanent marker on all of "his" rings. The lab responded the next day by labeling every cork ring in lab with his name. I am Spartacus, indeed.
Mark Lipton
Bill Spohn wrote:Mark Lipton wrote:Yeesh. My favorite story in this regard concerned a lab worker in the lab I did my Ph D work in. This guy became really upset if other people used "his" cork rings (used to supply a stable base for roundbottom flasks). These were regarded by everyone else in lab as communal property, so they took some umbrage when he wrote his name in permanent marker on all of "his" rings. The lab responded the next day by labeling every cork ring in lab with his name. I am Spartacus, indeed.
Mark Lipton
That one I like.
Hoke, I am a real fan of Flashman and thanks for that reminder of Fraser's wit. Too bad they never caught on for movies, (barring one indifferent flick with Malcolm McDowell as our hero).
Paul, I did something similar in high school (I was a chemistyry nerd. Not using phenophthalein, but rather methylene blue in some drinks in the lab fridge. Kid that was swiping them thought he was dying (no pun intended) when he started peeing blue.
Paul Winalski wrote:My Chemistry professor during my freshman year in college told us a story along these lines. When she was in grad school she was in charge of the Chemistry department's stockroom. The stockroom had a chronic problem with theft of anhydrous ethanol by undergrad students for use in the punch at frat parties. The problem is that there is water vapor in the ullage, so stealing even a few milliliters from a bottle ruins whatever's left. She finally put a stop to the theft by topping up one of the compromised bottles with ethanol and a small amount of phenolphthalein. She then noted who was out sick the next day, and warned those individuals about the danger of just taking stuff from a chemical stockroom--you never know what it might be contaminated with.
-Paul W.
P.S. - Phenolphthalein, in addition to its use as a pH indicator, is the active ingredient in Ex-Lax and other treatments for constipation.
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
I also once used both phenolphthalein and methylene blue to spike a can of pineapple juice (through the foil seal) to deter a thief in high school. He eventually forgave me.
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
8058
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Mark Lipton wrote:I'm amazed at the theft of absolute ethanol, as until fairly recently it was made through azeotropic removal of water with benzene, so it was always labeled to indicate the possible presence of residual benzene. I guess even the presence of a known carcinogen isn't enough to deter a determined undergrad. I also once used both phenolphthalein and methylene blue to spike a can of pineapple juice (through the foil seal) to deter a thief in high school. He eventually forgave me.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Kevin M wrote:A relatively small amount of adult toothpaste swallowed by a child can be fatal.
Jenise wrote:Kevin M wrote:A relatively small amount of adult toothpaste swallowed by a child can be fatal.
What on earth is in "adult tooth paste" that would cause this? I remember trying my father's brand when I was a kid and thinking that could happen (it was very 'hot' to my undeveloped palate), but of course it was only my imagination.
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