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WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

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WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Jenise » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:21 pm

2006 Felsina Chianti Riserva Rancia
Took my last of two bottles (the other was fine about two years ago) of this to a friend's for dinner on Saturday night. He was making Italian pot roast (a fantastic dish). Terribly disappointing--no flaws in particular, it was the right color and all that. It was just flat and listless on the nose and palate--some earth but no fruit, no acid. A complete dud.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by David M. Bueker » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:42 pm

Odd.

Very odd.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Tim York » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:52 am

I had a similar experience quite recently which I attributed in part to a marchand de vin sauce (wine, veal juices, shallots and butter) being too powerful for it. However most vintages of Rancia would have had no difficulty in standing up to that sauce.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Jenise » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:52 pm

Hi Tim, this was definitely the wine not the food. It was just one of those inexplicable dogs.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Dale Williams » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:49 pm

Jenise,
I was looking at CT to see if I had the '06 (I don't) and note your TN there says "musty" (and that you really liked last year). Are you sure not corked?
I generally like the Rancia, but seem more likely recently to buy regular CC or splurge for Fontalloro
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Jenise » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:11 pm

Yes, I am sure it wasn't corked. Musty was about the only aroma it had but not bad musty, just old musty. The difference between this bottle and last year's was like two balloons--one with air, one deflated.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by David M. Bueker » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:46 pm

That is way too quick for it to be a sound bottle. Rancia does not just fall off a cliff. Heck, the 1997 is still quite tasty, as is the 2004.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Jenise » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:48 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:That is way too quick for it to be a sound bottle. Rancia does not just fall off a cliff. Heck, the 1997 is still quite tasty, as is the 2004.


Oh I get it. I read others' notes on CT. It's flawed, I just can't say TCA is what's at fault. There was nothing off in that way, just no 'there' there.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by David M. Bueker » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:03 pm

Low level TCA, stripping away the flavor. Happens.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Jenise » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:19 pm

I guess. I'm in mourning. Just opened a Chapoutier La Sizzeranne that's preternaturally OTH.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by David M. Bueker » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:23 am

Huh. Commonality with sources? You get an awful lot of prematurely dead bottles, making me wonder about provenance where you shop. I know your storage is good.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Jenise » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:30 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Huh. Commonality with sources? You get an awful lot of prematurely dead bottles, making me wonder about provenance where you shop. I know your storage is good.


No, different sources. But in each of these two cases, I had a second bottle that was just fine, therefore I presume the issues with both were born at the winery.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by David M. Bueker » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:38 pm

More likely a Portuguese forest.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Bill Spohn » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:23 pm

Jenise wrote:I guess. I'm in mourning. Just opened a Chapoutier La Sizzeranne that's preternaturally OTH.


What vintage? My 1990 and 1993 are still fine....
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Jenise » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:41 pm

Bill Spohn wrote:
Jenise wrote:I guess. I'm in mourning. Just opened a Chapoutier La Sizzeranne that's preternaturally OTH.


What vintage? My 1990 and 1993 are still fine....


2004. Another bottle was okay, but not great. I have '95 which is still rocking, too.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by David M. Bueker » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:48 pm

2004 Felsina Rancia that I opened yesterday was clearly heat damaged.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Jenise » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:10 pm

Ai yi yi, how disappointing.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by David M. Bueker » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:32 pm

Second bottle that had the issue, bought on release from two different retailers. Perhaps the importer or more likely distributor screwed the pooch on caring for the wine.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by Tim York » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:12 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:2004 Felsina Rancia that I opened yesterday was clearly heat damaged.


I had better luck and rated mine excellent. It restored my faith in Rancia after my 2006's rather weak showing. Last week's 1995 was excellent too in a more refined vein than most Rancia.
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Re: WTN: Felsina Falls Flat

by David M. Bueker » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:46 pm

Reinforces my belief that my bottles were damaged.
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